Peel Regional PoliceGun Down Man With Mental Health Issues

NO TASERS HERE, JUST SHOOT TO KILL INSTEAD

  A Mississauga man was gunned down by Peel Regional police after the apparently emotionally agitated bi-polar man was found on a balcony at 1:00 AM in duress after police complaints were made regarding his actions.
 Police responded to the complaint where they found Greg Moynagh, 25 standing on an upper apartment balcony. According to police the man was in possesion of a knife and he was asked to drop it before police opened fire on him. A family friend claimed that the poice were well aware that the deceased suffered from a mental illness and this family friend stated that he had previous run ins with police and from those run ins the police were well aware of the serious nature of Moynaghs’ mental state.
 The family wondered why police had to shoot him in the chest if police were only trying to subdue him.
 Perhaps some mental health training would do these officers some good.
  
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9 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    Posted December 22, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Police are trained to shoot at the chest. It’s procedure. Anyone who thinks it’s easy to subdue someone by “winging” them in the knee has never fired a handgun at a rapidly moving target …and you can bet this guy wasn’t standing still.

    If I was a cop and a raving psychotic was rushing at me with a knife I’d shoot him. It beats getting your throat slit. It’s just that simple.

  2. Anonymous
    Posted December 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Two cops shot him in the chest and it sounds like target practice.

  3. Anonymous
    Posted December 24, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    “Two cops shot him in the chest and it sounds like target practice.”

    I’d like to put a gun in your hand and let a raving psycho attack you with a knife. I wonder what would happen.

  4. Chris
    Posted December 24, 2008 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    “I’d like to put a gun in your hand and let a raving psycho attack you with a knife. I wonder what would happen.”

    Agreed, My condolences to the family, however. And it is understandable that they feel a bit agitated about the instance.

    Maybe the police could have used a better tactic on putting him down other than a gun, since they do have other methods at their disposal. But none of us were in their situation so we shouldn’t judge their decision to shoot.

  5. Anonymous
    Posted December 24, 2008 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    “But none of us were in their situation so we shouldn’t judge their decision to shoot.”

    Exactly. These cops didn’t shoot him just for the fun of it. Discharging their weapons is a tactic of last resort. They knew their actions would be criticized and they’d be called before a review board. They had to have felt they had no choice but to shoot.

  6. Anonymous
    Posted December 30, 2008 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    I HAVE TO DISAGREE!!!!! DOES ANYONE ON THIS SITE WHO POSTED A COMMENT LIVE WITH ANYONE WHO SUFFERS FROM BI-POLAR DISORDER????
    Gregg Moynagh was a good friend of mine since we were teenagers and played hockey together. My Fiance also suffers from this illness that has put him in the hospital 4 times in 6 years for 3 months at a time. They are not “RAVING PSYCHOS” and whoever said that is ignorant, inconsiderate and un-educated!!!!
    For all you know there could be serveral people in your life who suffer from it and you would never know unless they were SICK!!!!
    These individuals can lead stable lives if properly medicated and monitored. The problem is the mental health system and it’s revolving door that rarely allows these patients the time to recover from manic episodes before placing them back into the community.
    Police have beaten my fiance several times, put him in the hospital and jail and still they have no compassion or regard for the fact he suffers from this unforgiving illness.
    I agree force was neccessary, there is NO DOUBT about that. But to shoot to kill??? It is beyond me. The same fear that I share for my daughters father when he is ill turned out to be Greggs fate!!!!
    The police need training when it comes to dealing with these situations. People who suffer mental illness are often victims and the police are supposed to protect. They should be advocates for the mentally ill, not their KILLERS!!!!!

  7. Anonymous
    Posted December 30, 2008 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    And come on…..anyone who is human can sign up to be a cop……they just can’t have a record. People who are bullied become cops so that they can in turn become the bully because they have the power. I have too many times witnessed police abusing their powers for wrong, I find it more so amont the rookie cops who want to make a name for themselves. I have seen and heard the corruption and to put your complete trust in STRANGERS just because they wear a police uniform??? Do you know them?? Their intentions?? Their history?? NO!!!!! They are a legal gang organization that is protected by their own law…meaning they can kill legally!!!! One cop shoots……the other three take his side, he goes home to his family. The one with 2 bullets in their chest doesn’t!!!!
    I know of few GOOD police who do their job exceptionally well and go beyond their call of duty at times……but these days good people are rare to come by, just like cops!!!!!

  8. Anonymous
    Posted December 30, 2008 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    R.I.P. Gregg Moynagh

    Do not stand at my grave and weep

    Do not stand at my grave and weep,
    I am not there, I do not sleep.

    I am a thousand winds that blow.
    I am the diamond glint on snow.
    I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
    I am the gentle autumn rain.

    When you wake in the morning hush,
    I am the swift, uplifting rush
    Of quiet birds in circling flight.
    I am the soft starlight at night.

    Do not stand at my grave and weep.
    I am not there, I do not sleep.
    Do not stand at my grave and cry.
    I am not there, I did not die!

    Mary Frye (1932)

  9. Anonymous
    Posted December 31, 2008 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    “Shooting their gun is a tactic of last resort”

    I’m sorry but wasn’t that their first choice?? They did nothng else to calm the situation, They aggrivated it!!! never did I hear of them trying to diffuse the situation before the gun went off.

    People who suffer from disabilities are not the same of those we consider to be “normal”, whatever that really is!!!

    So therefore something about these individuals, regardless of which mental illness or severity of it, have to be treated differently than those deemed to be “normal”.

    Their minds do not function as a “normal” persons would, so how can you expext them to respond with the same mind frame as you????

    It’s impossible. You tell them the sky is blue, they tell you it’s purple. You tell them you work for bell telephone, that really means your a cop??? Does it make sense??

    The stimga towards mental illness absolutly disgusts me!!!! The ignorance, disrespect and judgement they recieve is sickning!!!! People fear them because they do not know, they are ignorant to learn and understand.

    The reason it is hard to understand is beacause when they are ill their vision of reality is real to them but unreal to us. They can sometimes hear things, or see things that are not there, suffer from extreme parinoia and anxiety, they don’t sleep, they don’t eat, they live off adrenelin. They are on a planet of their own, fighting for their lives and normally feel as though the whole world is against them.

    NOW TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF THAT WAS YOU!!!! OR WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR CHILD?? YOUR MOTHER?? YOUR FATHER??? BROTHER??? SISTER??? YOUR WIFE????YOUR HUSBAND??? WOULD YOU UNDERSTAND OR WOULD YOU STILL BE IGNORANT, CALL THEM CRAZY PSYCHOS AND LEAVE THEM TO BE ON THEIR OWN????

    SUPPORT IS A NECCESSITY FOR THE MENTALLY ILL TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER, WITHOUT THEY NORMALLY DO NOT RECIVE THE HELP THEY NEED, THEY CAN’T DO IT ON THEIR OWN. IT IS THE HARDEST FIGHT YOU COULD EVER BE CHALLENGED WITH IN LIFE AND IT IS FOREVER. THE FIGHT NEVER ENDS. IT TAKES THE MOST STRONGEST, COURAGEOUS AND BRAVEST OF PEOPLE TO BATTLE THESE ILLNESS, AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM. IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY.

    I JUST PRAY TO GOD IT NEVER HAPPENS TO ANY OF YOU OR YOUR FAMILIES….MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!!


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