Christian Heritage Party Plans Rally In Woodstock

ANYONE UP FOR A PROTEST OF FUNDAMENTAL RELIGIOUS WACKOS?
Ron Gray, the leader of the Christian Heritage Party will attend a rally in Woodstock on Saturday to assist the campaigns of local CHP candidates who really need the support of the big guy himself. (who undoubtedly will appeal to the crazies in Norwich who wish to transmit their diseases to everyone)
Shawn Macdonald, a local person has agreed to run for the position of CHP MP here in Oxford. He believes its’ time to inject Christian values into government.
Actually, I think that we already do this. We are a Christian based nation at present.(or until Mark Steyns’ horrendous vision of the future comes into play!)
Personally I feel there is very little difference between Ron Grays’ right wing religious fundies than say the frigging Taliban. The end result of a CHP government would be the same as the end result of the Talibans’ influence on Afghanistan.
Anyone up for a protest of the intolerant group of persons that would apply the bible to everything?(resulting in women being shunned during menstrual cycles and such..)if so…mail me at jim@ladygodivas.ca
jim bender
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35 Comments

  1. Neal Ford
    Posted September 17, 2008 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    Why not get your facts straight before you start accusing people of being the equivalent of Taliban?First off, if the CHP did become the government, it would not be a theocracy. It would be a bunch of people like many in your own neighbourhood, who consider themselves accountable TO God, and to service to their nation and constituents… A rather humble approach don’t you think?
    Read the policy sometime, and you’ll find the truth about what the CHP believes: http://chp.ca.
    The CHP is the only federal party offering an alternative to those who believe in the sanctity of life and traditional values.
    And no, they do not hate homosexuals. They just dont think homosexuals should have special rights because of their orientation, nor that the state should protect or promote their lifestyle. They also do not believe they should be persecuted because of it either.

    Nevertheless, I strongly encourage you to go ahead with your protest or demonstration…it will serve as an opportunity for the CHP to get its message across to people who may not otherwise have heard about them for the first time. These people will read about what theCHP actually says, and guess what? many may actually like what they have to say, and want to support those who run in order to serve their country rather than be masters.

  2. Anonymous
    Posted September 17, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    “It would be a bunch of people like many in your own neighbourhood, who consider themselves accountable TO God.”

    I’d prefer my elected representatives to be accountable to me and not an invisible old man in the sky thanks.

    “A rather humble approach don’t you think? “

    Not at all. I think it’s incredibly arrogant, not to mention delusional, to think that you are in a position to interpret the will of the almighty and dispense said will in the form of governmental decree.

  3. Anonymous
    Posted September 17, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    So Mr Ford, what is the CHP position on people refusing vaccinations on religious grounds and then irresponsibly mingling with the general population and putting the rest of us at risk. Is this God’s will?

  4. Anonymous
    Posted September 18, 2008 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    No response? Waiting for God to post the answer?

  5. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 1:57 am | Permalink

    Wow. Ok. So if you’ve been vaccinated, you should be at no risk. Or have you not been vaccinated as well? This is petty. This is fear – fear of the unknown. I’m not saying I support Ron Gray. I’m also not afraid of him to think that I actually have to protest him. Seriously?! He poses a threat!? My energies can be better focussed on other aspects rather than being petty and angry at God, or people saying they represent him. I love God. Don’t take Him down in the name of a few people who claim to know Him well and represent Him well. Do your research instead of being so offensive. And yes, I’m anonymous. Not because I’m afraid, but because I CHOOSE to distance myself from two sides of the equation – the religious right and the self-righteous left.

  6. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 2:49 am | Permalink

    You insufferable twit. You actually think you can justify these deluded wackos refusal to be vaccinated by using the fact that most of the general population have been vaccinated? That you could suggest we should have to be vaccinated in order to protect ourselves from these god fearing pestilence bearing loons is absolutely twisted.

    Fear of the unknown? What are you babbling about? The only unknown here is how these people can be so determinedly ignorant.

    “Do your research instead of being so offensive.” What the fuck is that supposed to mean? You’re damned right I’m offensive, because I am offended! As for research I’d be surprised if you know half as much as I do about Christianity or just about any other religion you can name. I’ve done my research. That’s why I don’t believe in any of that crap.

    I don’t care which mythical creator you want to believe in as long as you behave with common consideration toward your neighbours and that definitely includes not intentionally spreading disease in the name of Jehovah.

    signed: A Right Wing Rational Humanist

  7. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Countdown to 2018 when all those spires turn into big onions.They won’t have to worry about being immunized, they’ll be worried about where to buy their new Koran.
    oh and ill be anonymous too…and Im not shirley

  8. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Let there be jihad.

  9. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    I like Pizza

  10. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know or understand what has made you such an angry person. And yes, I am a Christian so I do know Christianity well. I’m sorry you have been so offended by Christianity, but your anger tells me you are threatened by it. I will agree that there are “Christians” out there who do not practice what God wants us to do with our lives. His commandment to us is to love Him above all and our neighbours as ourselves. He does not desire our death, but desires us to come to Him, repent and believe in Him, and follow Him. How are we to follow? In love, peace, humility, meekness, kindness, integrity, etc. That’s how He wants us to live. And yes, being human, we can’t be perfect and we will mess up. Even to the point where some Christians are not even practicing this message of love and living double lives, lives that do not live up to being a true Christian.

    But by being offensive, I mean you hurt my God when you continue to say that He doesn’t exist. You hurt me by saying that about my God. I’m not calling you names. But apparently, that’s what you will stoop too. I firmly believe that’s because you don’t have God as the centre of your life. I wish you could truly learn to know who God is and who He wants you to be.

    Again, I’m sure you have done tons of research on sects of Christians who are that in name only and do not practice what God wants us to be. There are people out there, however, who would like to be law-abiding, loving and dedicated citizens of this beautiful country without being judged.

    With that being said, I do NOT support the CHP at this current time as I believe they are not a viable option to run this country and because there are so many sects of Christianity, I do not believe one political party can run this country based on their own particular beliefs. However, I respect the effort they have put forward, just as I respect the Liberals, Green, Bloc, Conservative and NDP. Being a Conservative supporter, means I support the Conservatives without living in fear and anger against other political platforms that don’t jive with my own particular beliefs. Instead I focus my energies on supporting who I believe will best represent the land I love – this land that is free from some of the offensive comments you yourself have made. Where I can choose to believe in the God I believe created this heaven and earth.

    Oh, and I came from the Norwich area so I can understand how you can think that some of them are crazy. Doesn’t make them all that way. I moved away to get away from crazy. But I still love many people from that area who are not crazy, and maybe a few that are. Irregardless, I’m called to love – and that’s what I will attempt to do until I die.

  11. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Oh and about the vaccination thing. Doesn’t that make you just as bad as them, if you haven’t been vaccinated?? Just wondering.

  12. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    You’re a Conservative? I don’t believe it. only a Liberal could play the passive/aggressive game as well as you can.

    As for the follow up at 4:44 …What the hell are you talking about?

  13. Anonymous
    Posted September 19, 2008 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Just saying, you’re so worried about catching the disease of whatever is going around now that they haven’t been vaccinated for. If you have been vaccinated, no worries, you shouldn’t get it. If you haven’t been vaccinated, your just as bad as them. Point made.

  14. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    “Point made.”

    Only in your mind buddy. Only in your mind.

  15. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Is this the same Jim Bender who stood up in public when running for election and said he would defend the rights of any citizen? Maybe there should be a proviso added “unless I personally hate what they stand for”.

  16. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    Jim Bender has not suggested denying anyone their rights. He has merely suggested that others might be interested in exercising their right to freedom of expression by showing up at the rally to express their opposition to faith based government.

    He also wrote nothing that could be construed as hateful unless you consider any comment that is critical of you as hateful.

    No hate. No denial of rights. Just a bunch of whiners trying to paint themselves as victims.

    Believing in the storm god of the ancient Israelites does not make you special. Get over yourselves.

  17. jim bender
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    Tis the same jim.
    I always said I would defend anyones’ rights…yes, anyone. Even yours.
    But hey, I never said I wouldn’t fight against tax exempt status for religion.(which is just another big business with lax accounting rules)
    I also will not defend the rights of a group that preaches outright intolerance of gay and lesbian persons.
    Using the pulpit to promote religious intolerance is well…unforgiveable..no matter what god you may think you own.

  18. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    Nothing is unforgivable if you believe in God. These people believe in God. God will forgive them. They know God’s will therefore they should govern. See? It’s completely logical if you think about it.

  19. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Twisted and bitter. Afraid. You bow down to fear when you cannot believe that you yourself are not strong enough to bear the pressure of criticism or someone else faith. Did I mention feeling threatened? By feeling threatened you are having to defend what you believe. If you believe in who you are, why defend. You see, going on the defensive makes you weak. Not strong. You’re not putting up a fight against them. Let them be them. They have little or no influence on today’s politics. Let them believe in peace, if that’s what they believe in just as you should believe in what you believe in in PEACE. Be better than them. Come on. This is outright silly.

    And for the record, God may forgive if you ask for His forgiveness, but your still accountable. Some day you, me and they will all have to face Him and give an account as to how you have lived your life. So yes, forgiven maybe, but still giving an account and paying for that. I don’t preach hate. I preach love. God’s love. Yes, He hates sin. He hates evil. But He wants us to love and serve Him in peace, as law-abiding and dutiful citizens, as long as it does not contradict His Word. He wants us to come to Him, confess our sins, and believe in Him. But not to hate.

    I take it that you would be the same person that thinks since some Muslims are extreme, they all must be. Now that’s intolerant. You are the same as them. They may be intolerant of you and your beliefs. But aren’t you being intolerant of them? Two-way street. They hate, you hate. Both are wrong.

    May God forgive you both.

  20. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Question out of curiosity: so the majority of people discussing this on this blog are against religion being involved with the state. Why do we as taxpayers pay for the Catholic schoolboard? Do you know that if you are a regular teacher, and not a Catholic, you cannot get a job with the Catholic system? Just curious as to any thoughts regarding this.

  21. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    To 1:54 …Thank you for making it abundantly clear that it is unnecessary for me to continue pointing out that you are irrational and deluded.

    To 1:55 …Thank you for posing a rational question. πŸ™‚

    “Why do we as taxpayers pay for the Catholic schoolboard? “

    There was partial funding for Catholics even before Confederation.

    It’s all about the votes. Successive governments have bought votes from the Catholic community by increasing funding ever since Confederation That’s how we arrived at where we are today. The public, secular educational system was sold out simply to buy votes.

    We should have one publicly funded, secular school system with no ties to any religious institutions. If religious folk want to indoctrinate their children with their particular brand of myth and superstition they should pay for it out of their own pockets.

  22. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    I’m so pleased that I have demonstrated myself to be so irrational and you have demonstrated to be so rational. Apparently, you either don’t lose well, or really don’t have anything useful to add to the discussion. Quite frankly I find your discussion quite ignorant and intolerant. Continue to sit in your own hatred and bitterness. Wallow in your own self-pity and anger. Just don’t allow us to be a part of it. I’m not sure I’d want you to be my neighbour, speaking of how neighbourly you want everyone to be. I don’t know who or what wronged you so badly, but you really need to deal with your personal issues and stop being so intolerant of others. Whatever happened to kindness and thoughtfulness? A little bit of that could go a long way in today’s world, but apparently this world is a different place, where hatred and intolerance is encouraged. I pity you. I live in a happy place – I actually enjoy life. Hope your anger and bitterness makes you feel like you’re in a happy place as well.

    With much sympathy.

  23. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Discussion? There is no discussion when one party is convinced that they speak with the authority of the all powerful creator of the universe. There can be no true debate. You will always be right because your God will always agree with your personal prejudices and convictions. Funny how that works.

    You have created your God in your own image. Why not? Every culture since the dawn of history has done the same thing. The Greeks had Zeus. The Scandinavians had Odin. You have Jehovah and Tom Cruise has his little green men.

    Do us a favour. Stay in your happy place. Say hi to Jehovah and the Easter Bunny for me.

  24. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Blasphemy is a victimless crime. πŸ™‚

  25. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Oh but I don’t claim to speak the will and power of God. I wouldn’t dare do that. His Word is enough for me. These are my own personal opinions – not necessarily God’s. I don’t have that kind of authority. Then again, your ignorance speaks out.

  26. Anonymous
    Posted September 20, 2008 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    “Oh but I don’t claim to speak the will and power of God.”

    I never said you did. I said, “when one party is convinced that they speak with the authority of God.” There’s a difference.

    You said, “He hates sin. He hates evil. But He wants us to love and serve Him in peace, as law-abiding and dutiful citizens, as long as it does not contradict His Word.” You are speaking authoritatively and and claiming to know the will of God.

    When you say “his word is enough for me” you are lying …to yourself. It’s not about His Word. It never is. It will always be about your personal interpretation of whichever biblical passage best serves your own personal bias. That bias may be in favour love and peace but typically that is just a veneer.

    Let’s find out. Here’s a question for you. Are homosexuals going to hell? Yes or No.

  27. Anonymous
    Posted September 21, 2008 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    Interesting question. Do I believe that practicing homosexuality is sin? Yes, because God Himself speaks out very clearly against it. Do I believe lying is sin? Yes, again God is clear about that. I can keep going on. Have I committed sin in my life? Yes, I have. If ANYONE asks for forgiveness of their sin, and sincerely means it, they will be forgiven. Whether they are homosexual or heterosexual. We are all in need of God’s love and forgiveness. That doesn’t make me any better than anyone else living on this earth. That also doesn’t give me the right to judge anyone else on this earth. I have to worry about the sin in my own life, let alone someone else’s.

    And your right, I’m sure personal bias does get in the way. I pray and try my best to not let my own experiences change how I feel God’s Scripture should be “interpreted”. I try my best to take it as literal as possible, and try to understand as best as possible what He wants from me.

    To say God hates sin, is straight from Scripture – no interpreting necessary. To say He wants us to love and serve Him in peace, is also directly from Scripture. If you want the references, I can get them. I don’t claim to know His will perfectly, but I do know to a certain extent how He wants me to live.

    I do my best to live God’s word. I mess up. I’m not perfect. Neither are you.

    So to answer your question, seeing as you think love and peace is the only slant I take: are homosexuals going to hell? If they don’t repent, yes. Am I going to hell? If I don’t repent, yes. Same applies to all.

  28. Anonymous
    Posted September 21, 2008 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    So I guess that means that anyone that doesn’t believe what you believe is going to burn for eternity.

    I’ll pass on your version of love and peace.

    peace

  29. Anonymous
    Posted September 21, 2008 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    If you have to meet your Maker, are you willing to fall back on your version of peace? I hope so. In the meantime, I pray that God will work in your heart His own work of love and peace.

  30. Anonymous
    Posted September 21, 2008 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    “If you have to meet your Maker, are you willing to fall back on your version of peace? I hope so.”

    But if I fall back on my version of peace you say I’m going to hell. You hope I’m going to hell? Thank you for your honesty. πŸ™‚

    Ghandi was right when he said, β€œI like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

  31. Anonymous
    Posted September 21, 2008 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Well the invitation is open: believe on Christ and follow Him! There is no hell for you then. Are you willing to do that? Because that’s what Christ wants you to do.

    And so this ends this conversation. I bring you up with love in my prayers, that God would bring you true peace.

    I know everything about me offends you. And if I am to be honest, I find your views offensive to my belief and faith. But I can accept this and move on. It’s between you and God now.

    Something tells me you will have a harder time letting it go and letting me go in peace . . . us Christians are all the same. Horrible, horrible people. I’m sorry you feel that way. I’m sure you have never done anything horrifying, hateful or unkind at anytime in your life, as you seem to be so sure that you are better than us horrible Christians.

    I hope some day you meet a Christian, rather than just blogging with one, that will impact you in a way that changes your opinion of us. We only want what is good for you, but I can see that is difficult for you to see.

    May God go with you and bless you.

  32. Anonymous
    Posted September 22, 2008 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    I can’t wait to go to your Hell. It will be the first time in 45 years that I’ve not paid a heat bill if it happens this year.Im hoping to see Marilyn Monroe there. I bet she’s even hotter now.

  33. Krista VL
    Posted September 30, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Just because there is a party that is called “Christian” does not mean they are in this to push their “religion” on you. They simply want to bring the country back to its Christian origins and have their opinions heard, rather than constantly being rejected and pushed aside. What is the difference between allowing Christians a voice and, say, Muslums? The difference is that people know deep down that there is truth to what Christians say but noone wants to acknowledge it. So what do people do? Persecute us for simply using our freedom of speech and RELIGION. If Muslums can push their way in, why can’t Christians? People, let’s be fair. I understand that Christians are seen as extremely pushy, but please remember that not all of us are like that. Some of use just want to been acknowledged.

  34. Anonymous
    Posted October 1, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Okay, we acknowledge you.
    Now, do you need a ride to the nearest psychiactric unit?
    I wouldn’t want to live here with a Muslim government…and neither would i wish to live with a government that believes it is accountable only to mr pie the sky.
    You already have rights that are protected under the charter of blights.I just do not feel that there is any place for religion and its’ barriers in government.
    Zero tolerance for religious meddling in government operations. no muslim government and no christian government.
    Works well for everyone, and no one fights over who the religious boss is.(ok, they’ll fight, cuz thats what they’ve been doing for hundreds of years…fighting about what god is right according to them.)

  35. Anonymous
    Posted October 15, 2008 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    i think you should get with this thing and do your research what kind of a retard would beleive that any party would shun women during the meunstral cycle things have changed since the bible times jim, i could say that the marijuana party wants the whole country smoking weed


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